In the video above, podcaster Joe Rogan
interviews Maajid Nawaz, author of “Radical,” a former Islamist
revolutionary who eventually became an anti-extremism activist. This is
another three-hour-long interview. If you want, you can skip the first
hour as it gets more applicable to current day issues after the first
hour.
Nawaz’s past experience with recruiting extremists to infiltrate and
overthrow Western governments helped him to more clearly recognize the
psychological mind games waged against the civilian public during the
COVID pandemic. He’s basically spent much of his later life opposing
“the manufacturing of consent around something that isn’t true.”
According to Nawaz, we’re in a “hybrid war.” It’s basically an
information war, because the primary weapon is information, and whoever
gets to define reality with their narrative wins.
He explains how, when recruiting extremists for your cause, you first
have to dismantle and destroy their current view of the world. After
that, you can then indoctrinate them with your view of the world.
Big Tech obviously plays a crucial role in this war, as they have the
technology and the algorithms to influence, manipulate and mold
people’s minds by deciding what narratives they’re allowed to see.
Social media platforms can easily make it appear as though a minority,
fringe position is actually backed by a majority.
Ironically, as Rogan points out, the people who are being brainwashed
are in many cases fiercely defending the right of these companies to
mold and manipulate them. They support the censorship, they support
cancel culture, seemingly not understanding the impact it’s having on
their view and understanding of reality and the world at large.
Power Grabs Through ‘Emergency Powers’
One answer to how we got to where we
are today is that governments have invoked emergency powers, and those
emergency powers often end up becoming permanent. That’s why they were
invoked in the first place.
As explained by Nawaz, “emergencies are always used by the state for
power grabs.” Once they’ve been able to expand a power under the banner
of a national emergency, they keep it. They don’t roll it back. So,
when, in 2020, the COVID pandemic was used to suspend human rights,
Nawaz knew we were on a slippery slope.
And, as he feared, we’re now experiencing a very radical shift in our
social contract with the state. Before the pandemic, the social
contract, the generally accepted modus operandi, was that everyone has
the right to bodily autonomy. While it’s good to donate blood, for
example, you are not required to do so — even if someone’s life hangs in
the balance.
No one can demand that you donate a kidney because you have two
functioning kidneys and someone else needs one. You have the right to
keep both of your kidneys, even if it means the other person dies for
lack of organ donation.
Also, if someone is vulnerable to illness due to preexisting
conditions, that person has always been expected to take their own
precautions. If you have a peanut allergy, you make sure you don’t eat
anything with peanuts, for example, and others are encouraged, but not
mandated or required, to make accommodations for and be considerate of
those who are vulnerable.
What we have never done, Nawaz notes, is make other people
responsible for our comorbidities and preexisting conditions and force
them to submit to a medical intervention that could harm or kill them in
order to improve our chances of survival.
A Radical Shift in Our Social Contract
If the state is going to tell us that we must get vaccinated because
it is our duty to protect other people, then that is a very deep and
radical shift of our social contract.
So much so, Nawaz argues, that it should require serious public
dialogue followed by a democratic mandate. But that’s not happening.
We’re now told that we must surrender our bodily autonomy for the common
good. If you disagree, you’re simply canceled and eliminated from the
public forum.
While not specifically discussed in this interview, this new social
contract, sprung on us during the COVID crisis, is actually part and
parcel of The Great Reset.1
The surrendering of individual rights — some for now, but eventually
all of them — is the “new social contract” that Klaus Schwab of the
World Economic Forum has envisioned and is pushing out to the world
through his installed leaders.
As noted by Nawaz, at the end of the day, it comes down to what kind
of society, what kind of world, we want to live in, and “We can’t go
from democracy to a ‘papers please’ society ... without having any
consultation with the public on this,” he says. We need to have a
“proper conversation about how this will permanently change the
structure of our society.”
The fundamental problem here is that we’re told we must simply trust
that the government knows what’s best and always acts in our best
interest. Yet we know the state can get things very wrong indeed. In the
interview, Nawaz recounts many examples where governments lied and
acted against the best interest of their people.
The same goes for Big Pharma. We’re told to trust their products,
their science and that they’re working to protect our health, always.
Yet for those of us who know the criminal history of some of these drug
companies, that’s a tall order.
As noted by Nawaz, the largest criminal fine in history was levied
against Pfizer. They have a very long rap sheet, yet we’re to take their
experimental gene transfer product on faith alone. Moreover, we’re told
to ignore all the data that suggests Pfizer is not, in fact, being
entirely honest about the benefits and risks of their product.
When There’s No Truth, Power Gets to Define Reality
One of the primary ways debate is shut down is by throwing labels at
people. It doesn’t matter whether they’re factually correct or not.
Nawaz has been called an “anti-vaxxer” for questioning vaccine mandates,
yet he’s double jabbed. He’s been called an “anti-Muslim extremist,”
despite spending four years in prison for his Muslim extremism.
“But there’s a deeper point here,” Nawaz says. For many years, we’ve
been shifting into relativism, this idea that truth is relative, that
it’s subjective and based on your personal experience. Your truth
doesn’t have to be what my truth is. You decide what your truth is and
there’s no such thing as “reality.”
This, Nawaz argues, has had devastating consequences because without
objective truth, there’s no objective reality, and without objective
reality, whomever has the power gets to dictate what reality is —
because you have no way to determine whether that power is telling the
truth or not. In the end, you end up with authoritarianism.
“When you promote the idea that there is no such
thing as truth, and when you shut down debate that is seeking truth —
not that it claims truth but it’s seeking it — in aid of this idea that
truth is relative ... what happens when you do that?
When there’s no such thing as truth, you can’t define
reality. And when you can’t define reality, the only thing that matters
is power ... because power gets to define reality,” he says. “Power steps into that void when reason no longer exists, and defines reality for you, from up above.”
Psychological Warfare
You can see then, how and why information is the most powerful weapon
in this fight for power. As noted by Nawaz, most people work full-time
jobs and have families and simply don’t have the time to do the research
required to discern the truth.
Instead, they turn to trusted voices in the media to give them their
best interpretation of what the truth and reality is. The problem we now
have is that the media are peddling the narratives of those trying to
get more power. And without truthful information, it becomes difficult
to define reality, which makes it difficult to challenge government.
This is also why leaders have repeatedly shifted the goal post and
then played with our memories of what they promised. The goal is to
disorient and confuse people to the point that they don’t have the
strength to question their government. This is psychological warfare.
The harsh reality that everyone must face now is that once rights
have been taken from you, government never voluntarily gives them back.
The only option people have is to TAKE their rights back through
peaceful activism.
Coming Next: Financial Warfare
Nawaz and Rogan also discuss how the global cabal is planning to
control the world population through the use of programmable central
bank digital currencies (CBDCs).
Programmable currency is digital cash that can be programmed such
that it can only be spent on certain goods or services that an employer
or government deem sensible.2
In other words, the issuer of the money can control how the recipient
spends it. With that, the issuer would have near-total control over your
behavior.
As noted by Nawaz, with a programmable CBDC, government would have
complete control over anyone who disagrees with their policies or
activities. If someone expresses dissent, the government could simply
restrict how they can use their money, or shut down their bank account
altogether.
For example, if the government didn’t want Nawaz to appear on Rogan’s
show, they could simply reprogram his CBDCs with the click of a button,
such that he would not be allowed to purchase a plane ticket.
What the globalists are now fighting to implement is a platform that
will give them complete control over people — something that will tie
everything in your life together in one central spot, such as your
employment records, medical records, financial records and more.
This is why they’re fighting so hard for vaccine passports, even
though it’s clear that they are completely irrational. What good is a
vaccine passport when the “vaccine” doesn’t prevent infection or spread?
Some nations are now scrapping the vaccine passports and shifting to
digital IDs instead. It’s important to realize that digital IDs serve
the same exact purpose as the vaccine passport, so the fight for freedom
is far from over, even if your government has publicly said no to
vaccine passports. As explained by Nawaz, we’re also seeing evidence of a
digital credit score being set into place.
Global Leadership Has Been Infiltrated
Nawaz also discusses how governments around the world have been
infiltrated by World Economic Forum (WEF) members whose agenda it is to
implement global authoritarianism, using the psychological, information
war techniques summarized above.
As noted by Nawaz, Schwab has worked on “embedding people in
government who are subscribed to The Great Reset agenda,” and in his
2020 book, “COVID-19: The Great Reset,” Schwab openly argues that the
COVID-19 response should be used to “revamp all aspects of our societies
and economies, from education to social contracts and working
conditions.”
The WEF has also clearly articulated3
its interest in developing a global digital ID system. So, what we can
look forward to is a never-ending process where the goal post keeps
moving toward more and more authoritarianism. And they’ve told us this,
openly, Nawaz says. All we need to do is believe them.
Due to the vast scope of this interview, I really encourage you to
listen to it in its entirety. If you don’t have much time then just skip
the first hour.